ローマ、ミラノ間の移動について

回答日：2023-04-04

イタリアにはお盆と同じ時期にローマ帝国時代から続く祝日期間があって、今もカトリックの祝日で、バカンスの時期と重なるそうです。この時期に行ったことはないんですが、過去の旅行記やQ＆A,ブログなどでみて知ってました。フェラゴスト, Ferragostoというそうです。
https://www.adomani-italia.com/blog/culture/ferragosto/

いろんなブログによると、この時期は相当混みあうそうで、祝日ダイヤになるのは間違いないでしょう。だから、まだ早すぎて決まってないだけだと思います。多分ですが、イタロが出す時に一緒にダイヤ出すと思いますよ。なので、あと１２日〜ぐらい待ったらわかると思います。
混みあう時期は、あっという間に早割切符がなくなって高くなるので、売られるより前に早めに気づいて良かったと思います。

回答日：2023-04-03

bobさん、こんにちは。

イタロについては4か月前、というので引っかかっていると思いますが、トレニタリア(フレッチャロッサ)については、6か月前からのはずで
https://www.trenitalia.com/
これでローマ-ミラノで検索すると、確かに8/19辺りを境にして、8/20以降は金額も時刻も出てくるのに、8/19以前(どこまでかは見てないですが)は出てこないですね。ざっと検索をかけても、トレニタリアで8月に何かイベント(工事とか何かの理由で運休、等)は出てこないです。

単純にシステム的エラー、のような気もするので、数日待ってみる、というのはあるかもしれませんが・・・・きちんと答えになってないで、すみません。素敵なご旅行になることをお祈りします。

回答日：2023-04-03

気が早いだけです。イタリア鉄道の公式予約開始時期は,

www.italiarail.com

How far in advance should I book my train tickets?
Trenitalia's train schedules and fares are typically only released between 90-120 days in advance*, so it's not a good idea to solidify travel plans before that point—the timetable can change seasonally.

You can buy your train tickets roughly 2 months ahead of when you'll need them, and can even book them the day before your train trip. Once you're in Italy, you can buy tickets just before you get on a train.

Buying tickets soon after they're released gives you a better chance of securing seats during busy travel days, and may give you access to sales or ticket discounts that are only available for advance purchases.

* The 90-120 day figure refers to high-speed trains. Regional train tickets are usually only available about 60 days in advance.


もう少し踏み込んだものが、
www.seat61.com
European train tickets
When does booking open?
かなり詳細で長いのですが、

A reality check..
In Europe we use trains to go shopping, attend business meetings or visit Granny, everyday activities we typically plan days or weeks ahead, not 6 months. For example, 90% of all UK train tickets are bought less than a month before travel.
For this reason, European trains only open for booking 2, 3, 4 or 6 months ahead, depending on the route and operator. This is plenty, at least for the locals! So whilst it pays to book ahead to get the cheapest fares, it doesn't pay to be impatient, you can't book before reservations open, but nor can anyone else. European trains seldom get full so you'll have no problem getting a place.
In my experience, the single biggest reason overseas visitors have problems booking European trains is that they try to book too far ahead, before booking opens or (almost worse) at the extremity of the booking horizon when data may be incomplete, so some trains appear but others are missing. Or trains & fares appear, but the booking fails to complete. Just wait, even if you booked just 2 months ahead you'd still be ahead of 90% of the locals!

The Golden Rule
If you are trying to book at or near the extremity of the 2, 3, 4 or 6 month booking horizon and either:
(a) you don't see any trains or prices in the search results at all; or
(b) you see a some trains, but various trains you expect to see are missing; or
(c) every single train has an expensive full-flex fare against it, there are no cheap advance-purchase prices at all; or
(d) you see trains & prices so it looks as if booking is open, but trying to book them produces an error message;
...then it's odds-on that booking isn't properly open. Don't assume that 'All the trains must have been randomly cancelled', they haven't!
Remember that the 2, 3, 4 or 6 months isn't exact, and it can shrink due to the June or December timetable change.
And if trains are missing on one or more specific dates within the booking period, this is probably engineering work, see tip 2 below.
And whilst 'Ticket unavailable' or 'Sold out' can occasionally really mean sold out if we're talking tomorrow or next week, if we're talking 2+ months ahead then 99.999% of the time it actually means 'Not on sale yet, please wait'.

イタリア部分に限ると、
Italian Railways (Trenitalia, www.trenitalia.com) also usually open 4 months ahead, although they've been trying to extend this to 6 months.
Trenitalia loads trains in blocks, prioritising popular trains & routes, so if for example you find all trains before midday mysteriously missing from the search results especially after a timetable change, no they haven't all been cancelled, I refer you to the Golden Rule above!
Trenitalia Intercity trains are often the last to be loaded and Intercity Notte sleeper trains last of all, so DON'T WORRY if the sleeper train you want is still missing from the search results less than 4 months ahead but other trains are there. It's not cancelled, just WAIT!

最後の言葉が全てです。少し待て。

こうなる理由ですが、

Tip 2, trains missing when booking should have opened?
Let's say booking has theoretically opened for the train you want, but on your specific date no trains appear, or the train you expect to see is missing the from the search results. But trains show up as normal on dates before and after the dates you want. What's going on?
It's almost always engineering work. The infrastructure operator hasn't confirmed the timetable so the train operator can't open booking for those specific dates, even if dates before & after are open. It may affect just one day, several days, random days, or longer.
It may also be because your train is an overnight sleeper, with overnight trackwork making these more difficult to timetable. So Italian and French sleeper trains may open for bookings after other trains are all open for booking, for example.
Will your train appear in due course, or is it definitively cancelled? You can't tell, and even the operator may not know!
3+ months ahead, I'd say an 85% chance of appearing in due course, with or without an amended timetable. Just wait a bit...
If it's still missing 2 months ahead, it's looking odds-on that they won't run, but it's still possible they'll open for sale very shortly.
If it's still missing 1 month before travel it's pretty certain that it won't run. Find an alternative train or route, if you haven't already.

Tip 3, known problem trainsにもイタリア鉄道は登場する常連でして、

Trenitalia in Italy opens 4 months ahead, in fact they've been trying to extend this to 6 months, but occasionally the horizon drops to only 60 days or so. Trenitalia does not necessarily load all the trains at the same time: I have seen only regional trains appearing in the search results, while high-speed trains haven't been loaded yet. I've seen high-speed trains loaded, but sleeper trains to Sicily (for example) not loaded until later. I've even known a period when all the afternoon trains were loaded, but not the morning ones. Once again, I refer you to the Golden Rule!

>フレッチャロッサ、イタロともに夏のお盆にあたる時期はイタリアでも夏休みで運休といったようなこと
>があるのでしょうか？

イタリア人は遊びに出かけ、外からは欧州人もアジア人も大量に入ってくる書き入れ時です。休むのは会社、商店と食事処です。鉄道はちゃんと動きます。

イタリア人が言うところのイタリアで焦らないといけないのは、夏のリゾートの宿の確保だけです。他は、約束の時間に遅れることと「明日できることは今日するな」を忠実に守っています。

回答日：2023-04-03

Italloの予約は乗車日の約120日前から可能です。